our co-ordinator put his hand up and commented saying that people who go on about how depressed or anxious they are just need to stop giving in to impulses and show more self control without letting their emotions rule their lives.. if anyone from the media, a government agency or some other public body heard a comment like that, they'd have a hard time exercising self control over the rubbish this elder spouted, which my friends and family with genuine depression found insulting..
they just need to stop giving in to impulses and show more self control without letting their emotions rule their lives
Imagine being at the mercy of this unenlightened narrow minded clod? This is why "unlettered and ordinary men" have no business being in a position of authority where they can influence and make life altering decisions that can permanently affect the lives of others.
anecdote of the day.
_________i spoke with a certain rabbi every morning for over a year and a half.we were at a starbucks along with a table filled with all sorts of fellows.
they were mostly immigrants.
The grandfather was suggesting that he, as a professional painter, was superior to and amateur painter because he didn't foolishly imagine that all of his work were masterpieces worth keeping. As a professional, he held himself to a higher standard.
If the (imperfect human) Grandfather/Painter were an imbalanced man, he'd have painted a big red X across the original painting and thrown it in the corner where it was of no use to anybody. He may have even, in a fit of rage, put his fist through some of the canvas that he especially disliked and rendered them forever useless. This kind of behavior would have frightened his family and made them question his sanity. Thankfully the Grandfather/Painter, being a balanced man, realized that he could choose to see the value in the existing painting and simply touch it up to make it more to his liking, or, he could chose to simply start over.
Christians base their belief in the existence of God on the Bible where it tells us he is a supreme ,just and loving being, incapable of error....he is not an amateur. Since we are comparing him to the Grandfather/Professional Painter, if he were truly just and loving God, he could have chosen to "touch up" the first human pair and improve their flaws or he could have simply started over. Instead, he chose to curse them and to render them in even worse condition than before. He tossed them in the corner (so to speak) and left them there to fend for themselves. Later he filled his art studio with water that ruined most of his work. A few of the paintings that he "sort of liked" floated to the top and survived this insane action. However because they weren't entirely perfect, he tossed them in the corner and eventually forgot about them too and vowed that one day, he would be back to burn his entire studio down.
my library has volunteers who run the local history department.
they put up an exhibition last month called women at war and they asked for photos of people in uniform who aided the war effort in wwll.
i offered a photo of my mother in her red cross nurse's uniform but then i couldn't find it so i had to write to my sister asking if she had it.. i addressed it to her and her husband explaining why i wanted it and just wrote as if this is family property and i needed it.
Sorry Pete, I just don't understand people like this, it just doesn't compute.
When JW's behave this way to their family members it reminds me of the time Jesus Apostles, full of their own importance, were heavily condemning the prostitute . They were willing to condemn her to the fullest while Jesus himself, the Son of God, was kind and forgiving to her.
It's a case of "The Butler(s) being more grand than the King himself".
It's sometimes the same way in an office. The head manager might be casual and have an open door management style but to speak to him one must first get past the $10.00 and hour clerk who is being far more officious than she needs to be by creating unnecessary road blocks because she's on some kind of personal power trip.
Shunning people is the only power the the GB allows the lowly individual JW to have. When shunning, most of them aren't primarily concerned with "sticking up for Jehovah". Their main motivation is the extra sense of virtuousness they get to experience by doing so. They get to play the role of the martyr (look what your actions done to me). Then also enjoy how noble it makes them appear to the group. This is referred to as "Virtue Signaling".
my library has volunteers who run the local history department.
they put up an exhibition last month called women at war and they asked for photos of people in uniform who aided the war effort in wwll.
i offered a photo of my mother in her red cross nurse's uniform but then i couldn't find it so i had to write to my sister asking if she had it.. i addressed it to her and her husband explaining why i wanted it and just wrote as if this is family property and i needed it.
The text was delivered, Pete.
I suppose it's possible the number may belong to someone else now and your message was delivered to the new party instead of your Sister. I've received " wrong number" texts and have ignored them unless they've seemed important in which case I've texted back and let them know they had a wrong number.
I'd hate to see you miss an opportunity to keep in touch because you thought she was ignoring you. ( just sayin' )
my library has volunteers who run the local history department.
they put up an exhibition last month called women at war and they asked for photos of people in uniform who aided the war effort in wwll.
i offered a photo of my mother in her red cross nurse's uniform but then i couldn't find it so i had to write to my sister asking if she had it.. i addressed it to her and her husband explaining why i wanted it and just wrote as if this is family property and i needed it.
Then I thought I would like to thank my sister so I used the mobile phone number I've not used since my parents died and sent her a text telling her how good the photo looked enlarged in the exhibition and thanking her.
Are you sure she still has the same phone number? Is it possible that she just didn't receive your text message?
bless you, that was a big sneeze you let out sister.. sister- ah, what does "bless you" mean?.
oh, it's pagan.
because people bless the soul of the person so they don't escape from their physical bodies.. sister- right, it is difficult to change the little things, but we can please jehovah by staying away from those things.. .... this is a scenario that happened when i accidentally (naturally) said "bless you" to the jw sister.
Sister- Right, it is difficult to change the little things, but we can please Jehovah by staying away from those things.
You: Well what about the "little" matter of mispronouncing his name tor all these decades?
Anyway, the words Bless, Blessed and Blessing are often used by the religious and they usually have something to do with God so therefore, JW's are automatically the authorities on the matter. If it wasn't their own idea to say "bless you " to someone who sneezes, then doing so is displeasing to God, unless the Governing Body has new light on this and other equally important matters.
i know it could be a sensitive subject however we were all once firm believers and could have very well let one of our loved ones die due to what we once believed.. and not to be judgemental on what we would have done or did do in the past ,i sometime wonder if any of the parents or even one parent of the children of the may 22nd 1994 magazine of "youths who put god first " have now regretted their decision to let their children make this decision on their own.. after all these years i find it hard to believe that not one of them have no regrets to what happened to their child.. i can also accept that it would be extremely hard to admit that you allowed your child to make a decision to die on a belief you instilled in them that you no longer now believe in.
i think that would be very hard to live with and come to terms with.. if any of you are here my heart goes out to you because you have gone through hell and my thoughts/vibes are with you..
I am the son of someone who died not taking blood at the advice of JW's but he was only studying at the time. The Elders assured us we would soon see him in the New System but because he wasn't baptized, they wouldn't let us have his memorial at the Kingdom Hall. He was worthy in their estimation of a resurrection but not unworthy of having his memorial held in the Kingdom Hall and he certainly wasn't worthy enough to be featured on the cover of the prestigious AWAKE! magazine.
A few years ago however, I did meet an X-JW couple who lost their young because of the Blood issue (Leukemia) and later left the organization over doctrinal issues....talk about ongoing grief and heartbreak.
female martyrs will be chief of 72 virgins the fairest of the women, and plus she will made beautiful , happy and without jealousy .."whoopee" their paradise is worst than jw's paradise..
Are Virgin Suicide Bombers allowed to drive yet or do they still depend on men to deliver their bombs for them?
Anyway, I suppose the best a Female Virgin Bomber can hope for, is the privilege of becoming part of a Harem of virgins who belong to a Male Suicide Bomber.
A few days later, none of them will be virgins and they['ll be looking around for something new to strive for.
let’s say that you haven’t been around a kingdom hall in years and everyone knows you are not a “true believer “ anymore.
yet a tragedy strikes and you want to give a real heartfelt expression of your feelings— what would you say?
would you acknowledge the resurrection hope that the witnesses entertain or say something very different?.
JW : "I cant believe Joe is gone, I'm so glad we at least we have the resurrection to look forward to"
You: " For now, it's up to those of us who are left behind, to help each other through the grieving process. I'm here if you need me...how bout' I take you to dinner tomorrow night ?"
-Or-
JW : "I can't believe Joe is gone, I'm so glad we at least we have the resurrection to look forward to"
You: " For now, it's up to those of us who are left behind, to help each other through the grieving process. I'm here if you need me...how bout' I take you to dinner tomorrow night ?"
JW: You still believe in the resurrection don't you?
You: "Well, to be honest, I'm not as sure about things like that as I once was. I'm sort of taking a wait and see attitude these days but I think that if God has something good in store for mankind, Joe will surely be a part of it. Lets focus on getting through this rough patch...what do you say we go out to dinner tomorrow night ?"
i was on the bus this morning and this thought came up while i was playing candy crush.
happy baptism birthday to me.
i was a mere child when baptized.
I was a mere child when baptized. If I could only go back to talk to my 12 yo self...
A relative of mine is a Bethelite (17 yrs) who was baptized at 12. She claims to have thoroughly understood the religion and knew exactly what she was doing when she got baptized. She said her parent's or other JW didn't coerce her into it , they let her make the choice. I asked her if her parents would have allowed her to attend a local church or study another religion or would they have been deeply upset if she'd have done so and what would the elders have done if she at 12 would have been allowed to study other religions of the world before getting baptized.
She looked away and didn't answer. Later she made several complaint-like comments about all the layoffs and weird changes going on at Bethel. She, (in a worried manner), made it clear that others there felt the same way. We strongly suspect that it won't be too long that she (like you) will be taking a second look at the decisions she made when she was 12 years old.
